My last post offered a perspective
on a common challenge by atheists: if man is the point of creation - the reason why everything was made - why is the
universe so fantastically immense? It seems wasteful in the extreme to have created so much for so few, and a bit
egotistical for us to claim that all this was created simply to provide a temporary habitat
for human beings.
A commenter to the post amplified
that point, making this comment:
The human race does not just live on one-grain-of-sand at the bottom of the Pacific Ocean.
They actually live on one Proton . . . in one atom . . . in one molecule . . . inside one-grain-of-sand . . . . among a trillion, billion, trillion other grains of sand.
Now if you want to say that Paris, London, New York, the Andes Mountains and Panda Bears were all created for the benefit of these microscopic creatures living on that one proton at the bottom of the sea – well give it a try! But it sounds like a slight stretch to me. The term ‘oversized-ego’ comes to mind.
This comment has considerable intuitive
appeal. As with most arguments from ridicule, it highlights what appears to be
absurd – that cities or mountains were made for the benefit of one proton at
the bottom of the sea. But this of course is not an apt analogy, for two
reasons: the universe appears to be fine-tuned to support the existence of
life, so that the various laws of nature that can be discerned throughout its
expanse play a necessary and integral part in allowing for sentient life. More importantly, we –
unlike an inanimate proton – are sentient beings, who are observing what has
been created. But even if we were to consider the analogy on its own terms, it
continues to miss the point. Implied in it is the notion that building cities
and mountains takes work – wasted toil from the perspective of the proton. But
an omnipotent being does not have constraints, either in terms of power or in
terms of resources, that would make his desires difficult to achieve. He can simply
think them into being, no matter how long or how difficult similar work would
be for us mortals.
The challenger went on:
And who’s touting the idea that these microscopic beings are the ‘chosen creatures’ for whom Paris and New York were built? Wouldn’t you know . . . it’s the very creatures themselves who boast their lofty position! With all due respect, and in complete seriousness – my dog Harry also believes he’s the center of the universe. In fact, every sentient creature on earth honestly believes they’re the center of the universe!
Here again we have an argument from
ridicule. How foolish for man to consider himself the center of creation. He’s
no more than a dog. Of course, this isn’t quite accurate. The "microscopic
beings" in the analogy don’t have minds, and even the dogs who "think" they are
the center of the universe are not actually entertaining such abstractions. This is simply the projection of a human thought onto a non-thinking animal. Dogs may wish for things that comfort them; they may follow their desires and
instincts. But reflecting on their place in the scheme of things is simply
beyond their capacity. Come to think of it, such reflection is beyond the
capacity of every living thing man has ever encountered. Of the billions of
forms of life that have inhabited this tiny blue dot, only man has the capacity
to plan, to imagine, to think abstractly, to create and contemplate the exquisite beauty
of art and music, to ponder questions of morality, to reason logically, to develop
mathematical equations that actually describe the nature of the universe he perceives
around him. And despite decades of
scanning the skies for telltale emissions of other intelligent sources, we are –
it seems – quite alone, at least as far as our instruments can tell us.
The commenter concludes:
Here’s an idea. Let’s show that we’ve definitively figured out the secrets of existence, and then, just maybe then, we can properly place ourselves in the hierarchy of existence.
So far, we’ve barely peaked out beyond the pile of sand just next to us.
That, I fear, will be a long wait.
It’s a tall order to ask that we explain everything before we come up with
theories that make sense. I will agree as to one thing, however: man’s place in
the center of creation does not give him bragging rights. He was made for a purpose,
and as Christianity teaches, he rebelled against his creator and rejected that
purpose. He now finds himself in a very tough spot- both figuratively and literally. The credit for his
salvation – no, further, the credit for his very existence in the first place –
does not go to him. Indeed, the one who created us, left us here, and loved us
enough to pave a path for us back to him, is deserving of the credit.
So, I would agree that we approach
this subject with the humility fitting for those who has been given a great gift. Ignoring the gift, and its giver - pretending that there is no gift - would not make us humble – it would
simply make us unwise.
2 comments:
Al,
Your responses to the commenter are mostly appropriate. Especially important is the fact that God does not have limited resources, and so there is no reason for him to strive for efficiency in his creation. It's also true that dogs do not literally believe themselves to be the center of the universe. So we are in agreement on those points, that the commenter's argument does not hold up in those respects.
However, I'm struck by your quickness to label certain arguments as being "from ridicule." For instance, in another comment thread, you falsely accused me of arguing based on ridicule. And here you have done the same to this fellow, falsely accusing him of arguing from ridicule. But clearly this is not the case. Just because he thinks your position has absurd consequences doesn't mean he's arguing from ridicule. Rather, he's trying (unsuccessfully) to show that your position is relevantly analogous to one which is obviously false. If only he had been successful, it might have constituted a good reason for you to abandon that position.
I realize that a lot of skeptics do engage in ridicule, and that even those who have real arguments often present those arguments in a disrespectful fashion. And I agree that the commenter above wasn't quite as respectful as he probably should have been. But just because some skeptics are disrespectful and mocking doesn't mean we all are. And arguments which liken your view to the absurd are not automatically founded in ridicule. On the contrary, arguments ad absurdum can be useful and important tools in determining truth.
I recommend you exercise greater caution in the future in writing off skeptical challenges as coming "from ridicule."
Regards,
Ben
Ben:
Thanks for the thoughtful comments. I believe your advice is sound. I didn't think the commenter was trying to mock me, which is the most extreme form of ridicule, and I didn't think he was trying to show that my argument was absurd (though perhaps he was). It just struck me as an appeal to making my overall argument seem silly or stupid by comparing it to the examples he provided. A rhetorical move like that can be quite persuasive.
In any case, it may have been an over-statement on my part.
Thanks again.
Al
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